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From: "STARLAB Latinoamerica" <operaciones@mirameonline.com>
To: "Greg Lehey" <grog@lemis.com>
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Subject: RE: We have blocked mail from the ciudad.com.ar domain because of spam.
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:48:52 -0300
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Dear Sir:

Are you crazy?

Your reaction is totally wronged.  Now We have not more interested in you.  We
have not interested more in keep contact with australians people like you.

The text was in spanish because is very difficult for us write in english:
Did you not think in a possible error of missaddress ? Did you not think in
a real possible interest in your work? Did you not think this people wants
contact me really?

More: You address is public.  Your address is in web page.  Your address is
not private.  It was not spamm
If you want to be alone: DON´T PUBLISH YOUR EMAIL IN WEB PAGE.


More: The text in spanish said "we saw your web page by surfing the web and
we write you because we want keep new relationship"

More: The text has name, surname, address, telephone, etc.  The sender is
assuming the responsability.

It is not spamm brute man.! Your ignorance shine in the history of humankind
like Hitler, Mussolini and other totalitarians personalities.  But don´t
problem you you reach the target: here there are more stupid persons like
you.  The server owners blocked our email because they are so ignorants like
you.  You can feel very happy.  You reached the target.  Congratulations!
You have so studies and however you are a rude man.  You are not a gentleman.
You must polish your behavior.  Your reactions looks like a Pitecantrophus.

We will recommend our 135,000 users in worldwide discard your site and make
a boycot

Have you a very nice year.

Ingeniero Vega

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----- Mensaje original -----
De: "Greg Lehey" <grog@lemis.com>
Para: <starlab2000@ciudad.com.ar>
CC: <abuse@ciudad.com.ar>; <grog@lemis.com>; <postmaster@ciudad.com.ar>
Enviado: jueves, 25 de enero de 2001 3:57
Asunto: We have blocked mail from the ciudad.com.ar domain because of spam.


> We consider the attached mail message to be spam.  It appears to come
> from user starlab2000@ciudad.com.ar.
>
> We take a serious stand against spam.  In view of the fact that
> blocking individual users is a time-consuming affair which has little
> likelihood of success, we have chosen to block the entire domain.
> This means that your action has potentially affected thousands of
> innocent users.  It's even possible that your mail forged the domain
> names, in which case you have hurt people with whom you have nothing
> to do, which I consider to be a criminal offence.  In any case, in the
> assumption that your ISP is reputable, I am copying abuse@ciudad.com.ar.
>
> If you believe this blockage was in error, please contact me by phone
> at +61-8-8388-8286 between 9 am and 6 pm Central Australian time
> (currently GMT+1030).  At a later date you will be able to do
> this via the web at http://www.lemis.com/dontspam.html.  If you are a
> spammer and we have a repeat offence, we will block the domain
> permanently.
>
> Greg Lehey
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>> From: starlab2000@ciudad.com.ar
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>> To: starlab2000@ciudad.com.ar
>> Subject: Hemos visitado su pagina y solicitamos contactarlo
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>>
>> De nuestra mayor consideración:
>>
>> Acostumbramos navegar la web en busca de sitios y páginas web
interesantes,  para establecer nuevos contactos y relaciones como objetivo
principal.
>>
>> De esta manera hemos encontrado su email y creemos interesante
solicitarles, por favor, que ustedes visiten nuestra página que presenta  un
variado arco de productos y servicios relacionados a planetarios móviles,
telescopios, sunspotters, etc, biologia, geologia, oceanografia, etc.
>>
>> http://www.starlab.webprovider.com
>>
>> De hacernos el favor de correspondernos, con  gusto esperaremos sus
opiniones, sugerencias y/o propuestas.
>>
>> Además, si nos envia su dirección postal, le enviaremos gratuitamente
completa folleteria a todo color informativa.  Muchísimas gracias.
>>
>> Ingeniero Alejandro Vega
>> Representante de STARLAB para Latino America
>>
>> starlab2000@ciudad.com.ar
>>
>> te: 54 11 4572 5800
>> fx: 54 11 4545 5114
>>
>> Salvador Maria del Carril 2341 - Buenos Aires (1419) - Argentina
>>
>>